{"id":1330,"date":"2009-06-01T19:08:16","date_gmt":"2009-06-01T18:08:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2009\/06\/01\/harald-welzer-sociologue-%c2%abgrand-pere-netait-pas-nazi-2002%c2%bb-mediapart\/"},"modified":"2009-06-01T19:08:16","modified_gmt":"2009-06-01T18:08:16","slug":"harald-welzer-sociologue-grand-pere-netait-pas-nazi-2002-mediapart","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/Blog\/2009\/06\/01\/harald-welzer-sociologue-grand-pere-netait-pas-nazi-2002-mediapart\/","title":{"rendered":"Harald Welzer, sociologue : \u00abGrand-p\u00e8re n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas nazi (2002)\u00bb | Mediapart"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>En Allemagne, votre livre Grand-p&egrave;re n&rsquo;&eacute;tait pas nazi (2002, voir sous l&rsquo;onglet Prolonger) a eu un retentissement consid&eacute;rable. Certains ont dit qu&rsquo;il marquait le point final de la r&eacute;flexion sur le nazisme&#8230; <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>(Il rit) Un point final? C&rsquo;est un d&eacute;but, au contraire! Pour un livre de sociologie, ce livre a eu un retentissement formidable. Il a &eacute;t&eacute; r&eacute;&eacute;dit&eacute; plusieurs fois, a suscit&eacute; des films, des documentaires, des projets dans les &eacute;coles. Gr&acirc;ce &agrave; ce livre, les Allemands ont commenc&eacute; &agrave; s&rsquo;interroger sur leur propre grand-p&egrave;re. En g&eacute;n&eacute;ral, les petits-enfants allemands racontent toujours des histoires positives sur leur grand-p&egrave;re. Ils essaient de lui construire un pass&eacute; de r&eacute;sistant, m&ecirc;me si ce n&rsquo;&eacute;tait pas le cas. Mais comme le dit l&rsquo;historien am&eacute;ricain Raul Hilberg, l&rsquo;Holocauste en Allemagne est une histoire de famille. C&rsquo;est comme &ccedil;a. Chaque famille a &eacute;t&eacute; en quelque sorte contamin&eacute;e, en bien ou en mal. Imaginez: vous avez 14 ou 18 ans, vous avez ce grand-p&egrave;re, votre grand-p&egrave;re ch&eacute;ri. A l&rsquo;&eacute;cole vous avez appris que l&rsquo;Allemagne a fait des choses terribles, qu&rsquo;il ne faut plus jamais que cela arrive. Eh bien, l&rsquo;histoire, c&rsquo;est tout &ccedil;a &agrave; la fois. Ce que les enfants apprennent &agrave; l&rsquo;&eacute;cole et ce gentil papy avec lequel vous f&ecirc;tez No&euml;l tous les ans. Je voulais juste faire comprendre &ccedil;a.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediapart.fr\/journal\/international\/010609\/harald-welzer-sociologue-les-intellectuels-francais-m-influencent-peu\">Harald Welzer, sociologue : &laquo;Les intellectuels fran&ccedil;ais m&rsquo;influencent peu&raquo; | Mediapart<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>En Allemagne, votre livre Grand-p&egrave;re n&rsquo;&eacute;tait pas nazi (2002, voir sous l&rsquo;onglet Prolonger) a eu un retentissement consid&eacute;rable. Certains ont dit qu&rsquo;il marquait le point final de la r&eacute;flexion sur le nazisme&#8230; (Il rit) Un point final? C&rsquo;est un d&eacute;but, au contraire! Pour un livre de sociologie, ce livre a eu un retentissement formidable. 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