{"id":3467,"date":"2011-01-31T20:53:22","date_gmt":"2011-01-31T19:53:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/?p=3467"},"modified":"2011-01-31T20:53:22","modified_gmt":"2011-01-31T19:53:22","slug":"de-lillusion-du-changement-au-changement-pierre-frackowiak","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/Blog\/2011\/01\/31\/de-lillusion-du-changement-au-changement-pierre-frackowiak\/","title":{"rendered":"De l’illusion du changement au changement… | Pierre Frackowiak"},"content":{"rendered":"

La chronique de Pierre Frackowiak est une forme de traduction fran\u00e7aise des r\u00e9ticences \u00e0 l’\u00e9gard des TICE d\u00e9velopp\u00e9es aux Etats-Unis par Larry Cuban et certains tenants des p\u00e9dagogies actives. <\/strong><\/p>\n

La principale remarque est que, contrairement aux discours vantant l’introduction des TICE pour changer la p\u00e9dagogie, les TICE ne feraient que renforcer le mod\u00e8le magistral. Or, celui-ci reste au coll\u00e8ge le principal obstacle \u00e0 l’\u00e9mancipation des savoirs et de la reproduction sociale.<\/p>\n

La majorit\u00e9 des t\u00e9moignages et comptes-rendus montrent que les TICE Technologies de l\u2019information et de la communication pour l\u2019\u00e9ducation permettent de rendre l\u2019enseignement plus moderne, plus agr\u00e9able, mieux illustr\u00e9, plus proche des usages des enfants et des jeunes, qu\u2019au-del\u00e0 de la classe, elles permettent d\u2019am\u00e9liorer l\u2019administration et la communication interne et externe. Mais les pratiques, le mod\u00e8le p\u00e9dagogique massivement et depuis toujours en vigueur, ne sont pas fondamentalement remis en cause. On reste, voire on renforce, la place du ma\u00eetre. L\u2019une des causes d\u2019\u00e9chec du coll\u00e8ge est justement le d\u00e9calage entre les contenus disciplinaires cloisonn\u00e9s et les pratiques et savoirs sociaux.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ce passage tir\u00e9 de son ouvrage\u00a0 \u00abLa place de l\u2019\u00e9l\u00e8ve \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cole\u00bb<\/em> (Editions la Chronique Sociale. D\u00e9cembre 2010) a suscit\u00e9 de nombreux commentaires sur lequel Pierre Frackowiak revient dans sa tribune pour l’Association nationale des @cteurs de l’\u00e9cole<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Au final,\u00a0Pierre Frackowiak en appelle \u00e0 un nouveau projet \u00e9ducatif global tout en encourageant celles et ceux<\/p>\n

qui essaient, qui t\u00e2tonnent, qui cherchent, [\u00e0] continuer et diffuser leurs travaux, se faire plaisir aussi – une notion que l\u2019on oublie compl\u00e8tement aujourd\u2019hui -, en \u00e9tant lucides, en sachant que le combat pour une autre politique \u00e9ducative est vital.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

via\u00a0De lillusion du changement au changement… – An@\u00e9<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Compl\u00e9ment du 1er f\u00e9vrier (10:54):<\/strong><\/p>\n

Interview\u00e9 par le\u00a0Caf\u00e9 p\u00e9dagogique<\/em> \u00e0 propos de la situation des TICE au Qu\u00e9bec, Mario Asselin pose un diagnostic comparable \u00e0 celui de Pierre Frackowiak tout en \u00e9tant plus optimiste:
\n\u00abSi les TICE ne modifient pas davantage les pratiques qu\u2019anticip\u00e9, c\u2019est peut-\u00eatre que le contexte dans lequel ils ont \u00e9t\u00e9 utilis\u00e9s est tr\u00e8s souvent \u00abfrontal\u00bb. Ceux chez qui les pratiques \u00e9voluent me paraissent utiliser davantage le levier de la publication Web et de la recherche sur Internet. Pour les autres, ceux qui utilisent le TBI par exemple, on verra ce qui arrivera \u00e0 force de laisser plus souvent le contr\u00f4le du stylet aux \u00e9l\u00e8ves\u2026\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n

L’interview du Caf\u00e9 p\u00e9dagogique<\/em> :\u00a0Qu\u00e9bec : Quelle place pour les TICE ?<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

La chronique de Pierre Frackowiak est une forme de traduction fran\u00e7aise des r\u00e9ticences \u00e0 l’\u00e9gard des TICE d\u00e9velopp\u00e9es aux Etats-Unis par Larry Cuban et certains tenants des p\u00e9dagogies actives. La principale remarque est que, contrairement aux discours vantant l’introduction des TICE pour changer la p\u00e9dagogie, les TICE ne feraient que renforcer le mod\u00e8le magistral. 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