{"id":10547,"date":"2015-10-14T20:37:52","date_gmt":"2015-10-14T19:37:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/?p=10547"},"modified":"2015-10-14T20:37:52","modified_gmt":"2015-10-14T19:37:52","slug":"robert-paxton-lidee-que-la-france-de-vichy-a-essaye-de-proteger-les-juifs-est-absurde","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2015\/10\/14\/robert-paxton-lidee-que-la-france-de-vichy-a-essaye-de-proteger-les-juifs-est-absurde\/","title":{"rendered":"Robert Paxton : \u201cL’id\u00e9e que la France de Vichy a essay\u00e9 de prot\u00e9ger les Juifs est absurde\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\nSon grand livre, \u201cVichy et les juifs\u201d, repara\u00eet aujourd’hui, dans une version revue et augment\u00e9e. T\u00e9l\u00e9rama a rencontr\u00e9 \u00a0le grand historien am\u00e9ricain Robert Paxton.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Robert Paxton, professeur d’histoire \u00e9m\u00e9rite \u00e0 Columbia University (New York), est l’auteur de\u00a0La France de Vichy, paru aux \u00e9ditions du Seuil en 1973, et de\u00a0Vichy et les Juifs<\/em>, paru en 1981 aux \u00e9ditions Calmann-L\u00e9vy. C’est ce dernier livre que Robert Paxton r\u00e9\u00e9dite aujourd’hui (avec Micha\u00ebl R. Marrus),\u00a0dans une version enrichie et compl\u00e9t\u00e9e qui tient compte des travaux parus depuis trente ans. Une somme qui fait liti\u00e8re de toutes les formes de r\u00e9visionnisme qui ne cessent de ressurgir ici ou l\u00e0. Extrait.<\/p>\n

Avez-vous l\u2019impression, pour reprendre l\u2019expression de Henry Rousso et Eric Conan, que Vichy reste un\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0pass\u00e9 qui ne passe pas\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>\u00a0?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bien s\u00fbr. C\u2019est comme l\u2019esclavage ou le sort des Indiens aux Etats-Unis. C\u2019est l\u00e0, \u00e7a fait partie du pass\u00e9, et d\u00e8s qu\u2019on cherche \u00e0 enseigner une histoire du pays, on doit faire face \u00e0 la question\u00a0: va-t-on expliquer aux enfants qu\u2019on a eu des p\u00e9riodes sombres dans notre histoire ou doit-on privil\u00e9gier une image \u00e9dulcor\u00e9e de cette histoire\u00a0?<\/em><\/strong> Dans les p\u00e9riodes de crise, on est plut\u00f4t \u00e0 la recherche d\u2019une histoire positive, mais la cicatrice de l\u2019Occupation a du mal \u00e0 se refermer.<\/p>\n

Le reste de cette entretien (version abr\u00e9g\u00e9e)\u00a0: Robert Paxton : \u201cL’id\u00e9e que la France de Vichy a essay\u00e9 de prot\u00e9ger les Juifs est absurde\u201d<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Son grand livre, \u201cVichy et les juifs\u201d, repara\u00eet aujourd’hui, dans une version revue et augment\u00e9e. T\u00e9l\u00e9rama a rencontr\u00e9 \u00a0le grand historien am\u00e9ricain Robert Paxton. Robert Paxton, professeur d’histoire \u00e9m\u00e9rite \u00e0 Columbia University (New York), est l’auteur de\u00a0La France de Vichy, paru aux \u00e9ditions du Seuil en 1973, et de\u00a0Vichy et les Juifs, paru en 1981 […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":10548,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_import_markdown_pro_load_document_selector":0,"_import_markdown_pro_submit_text_textarea":"","_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[5,11,13,16],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-10547","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-histoire-savante","8":"category-nouvelles-de-lhistoire","9":"category-opinionsreflexions","10":"category-publications","11":"entry"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"featured_image_src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/robert-paxton-l-idee-que-la-france-de-vichy-a-essaye-de-proteger-les-juifs-est-absurdeM263523.jpg?resize=600%2C400&ssl=1","featured_image_src_square":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/robert-paxton-l-idee-que-la-france-de-vichy-a-essaye-de-proteger-les-juifs-est-absurdeM263523.jpg?resize=600%2C600&ssl=1","author_info":{"display_name":"Lyonel Kaufmann","author_link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/author\/lyonelk\/"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/robert-paxton-l-idee-que-la-france-de-vichy-a-essaye-de-proteger-les-juifs-est-absurdeM263523.jpg?fit=1000%2C992&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1rJVM-2K7","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":8445,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2014\/10\/10\/robert-paxton-largument-de-zemmour-sur-vichy-est-vide-rue89\/","url_meta":{"origin":10547,"position":0},"title":"Robert Paxton\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0L\u2019argument de Zemmour sur Vichy est vide\u00a0\u00bb |\u00a0Rue89","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"10 octobre 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"Rue89. 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