{"id":14985,"date":"2018-10-04T10:00:25","date_gmt":"2018-10-04T09:00:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/?p=14985"},"modified":"2018-10-04T08:36:48","modified_gmt":"2018-10-04T07:36:48","slug":"histoire-populaire-de-la-france-avec-gerard-noiriel-paroles-dhistoire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2018\/10\/04\/histoire-populaire-de-la-france-avec-gerard-noiriel-paroles-dhistoire\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast : Histoire populaire de la France, avec G\u00e9rard Noiriel \u2013 Paroles d&rsquo;histoire"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p><strong>Les intervenants\u00a0:<\/strong> G\u00e9rard Noiriel, directeur d\u2019\u00e9tudes \u00e0 l\u2019EHESS\u00a0; Philippe Olivera, historien, enseignant, \u00e9diteur (Agone)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Le Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/p\/content.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/noiriel_histoirepopulaire.mp3\">A jouer dans une nouvelle fen\u00eatre<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/s\/content.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/noiriel_histoirepopulaire.mp3\">T\u00e9l\u00e9chargement<\/a><\/p>\n<div>\n<p><strong>Le livre\u00a0:<\/strong> <em>Une histoire populaire de la France, de Jeanne d\u2019Arc \u00e0 nos jours<\/em>, Marseille, Agone, 2018<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AGONENOIRIEL.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" height=\"300\" width=\"172\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AGONENOIRIEL-172x300.jpg?resize=172%2C300\" \/><\/p>\n<p><\/a><strong>La discussion\u00a0:<\/strong> Les origines du livre, au regard du genre \u00ab\u00a0histoire de France\u00a0\u00bb et de l\u2019ouvrage d\u2019Howard Zinn, Histoire populaire des \u00c9tats-Unis (1\u201900)\u00a0; le \u00ab\u00a0populaire\u00a0\u00bb comme cat\u00e9gorie prise dans les relations entre domin\u00e9s et dominants (5\u201920)\u00a0; l\u2019id\u00e9e d\u2019\u00e9crire pour un public plus large que celui de la profession historienne (7\u201900)\u00a0; l\u2019importance de s\u2019approprier des objets comme l\u2019histoire de France parfois monopolis\u00e9s par des auteurs r\u00e9actionnaires (11\u201920)\u00a0; le point de d\u00e9part de cette histoire et le choix de d\u00e9marrer \u00e0 la fin du Moyen \u00e2ge, en lien avec la construction d\u2019un \u00c9tat monarchique (12\u201945)\u00a0; les singularit\u00e9s de la construction nationale fran\u00e7aise au regard des exemples britannique et allemand (15\u201950)\u00a0; le choix d\u2019\u00e9crire une histoire sociale, et de faire de la question sociale la clef de lecture fondamentale des \u00e9volutions, par rapport aux questions identitaires (19\u201930)\u00a0; l\u2019application de cet angle d\u2019approche pour le XVIe si\u00e8cle\u00a0: les guerres de religion comme expression d\u2019enjeux sociaux (26\u201925)\u00a0; les c\u00e9sures mises en lumi\u00e8re dans cette histoire de France (30\u201920)\u00a0: les ann\u00e9es 1750 (32\u201930), les ann\u00e9es 1880 avec la Grande D\u00e9pression et les d\u00e9buts de la IIIe R\u00e9publique (34\u201925), l\u2019attention port\u00e9e dans le livre aux regards port\u00e9s sur l\u2019autre (colonis\u00e9, domestique, ouvrier, paysan\u2026) et la question de la reconnaissance de l\u2019autre, qui permet de \u00ab\u00a0se rendre \u00e9tranger \u00e0 soi-m\u00eame\u00a0\u00bb (39\u201950), la capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 toucher d\u2019autres publics en sortant de ses habitudes historiennes, en travaillant avec des artistes (43\u201950).<\/p>\n<p>Une \u00e9vocation plus large du travail de G\u00e9rard Noiriel, par Nicolas Offenstadt, est <a href=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2018\/06\/08\/11-autour-de-gerard-noirel-avec-nicolas-offenstadt\/\">\u00e0 \u00e9couter dans l\u2019\u00e9pisode 11 du podcast<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>via Paroles d&rsquo;histoire :\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2018\/10\/03\/22-histoire-populaire-de-la-france-avec-gerard-noiriel-et-philippe-olivera\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2018\/10\/03\/22-histoire-populaire-de-la-france-avec-gerard-noiriel-et-philippe-olivera\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Les intervenants\u00a0: G\u00e9rard Noiriel, directeur d\u2019\u00e9tudes \u00e0 l\u2019EHESS\u00a0; Philippe Olivera, historien, enseignant, \u00e9diteur (Agone) Le Podcast: A jouer dans une nouvelle fen\u00eatre | T\u00e9l\u00e9chargement Le livre\u00a0: Une histoire populaire de la France, de Jeanne d\u2019Arc \u00e0 nos jours, Marseille, Agone, 2018 La discussion\u00a0: Les origines du livre, au regard du genre \u00ab\u00a0histoire de France\u00a0\u00bb et [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":14988,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_import_markdown_pro_load_document_selector":0,"_import_markdown_pro_submit_text_textarea":"","_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[5,11,13],"tags":[827,771],"class_list":{"0":"post-14985","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-histoire-savante","8":"category-nouvelles-de-lhistoire","9":"category-opinionsreflexions","10":"tag-evernote","11":"tag-ifttt","12":"entry"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"featured_image_src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AGONENOIRIEL-586x1024.jpg?resize=586%2C400&ssl=1","featured_image_src_square":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AGONENOIRIEL-586x1024.jpg?resize=586%2C600&ssl=1","author_info":{"display_name":"Lyonel Kaufmann","author_link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/author\/lyonelk\/"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/AGONENOIRIEL-586x1024.jpg?fit=586%2C1024&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1rJVM-3TH","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":15180,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2018\/11\/11\/gerard-noiriel-blogue\/","url_meta":{"origin":14985,"position":0},"title":"G\u00e9rard Noiriel blogue\u2026","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"11 novembre 2018","format":false,"excerpt":"L\u2019historien G\u00e9rard Noiriel vient d\u2019ouvrir son blogue. 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