{"id":18268,"date":"2021-03-09T20:15:00","date_gmt":"2021-03-09T19:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/?p=18268"},"modified":"2021-03-09T20:22:57","modified_gmt":"2021-03-09T19:22:57","slug":"la-disparition-de-lhomme-de-neandertal-serait-plus-ancienne-que-lon-croyait","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2021\/03\/09\/la-disparition-de-lhomme-de-neandertal-serait-plus-ancienne-que-lon-croyait\/","title":{"rendered":"La disparition de l&rsquo;Homme de N\u00e9andertal serait plus ancienne que l&rsquo;on croyait"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: inherit;\">Quand a disparu l&rsquo;Homme de N\u00e9andertal? La question agite les scientifiques depuis longtemps. Des restes humains d&rsquo;une grotte en Belgique, analys\u00e9s gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 une nouvelle technique, contribuent aujourd&rsquo;hui au d\u00e9bat en se r\u00e9v\u00e9lant bien plus anciens que pr\u00e9c\u00e9demment envisag\u00e9s.<\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Selon de pr\u00e9c\u00e9dentes datations par radiocarbone, les sp\u00e9cimens de la grotte de Spy en Belgique, o\u00f9 de nombreux restes humains ont \u00e9t\u00e9 retrouv\u00e9s depuis le 19\u00e8me si\u00e8cle, remontaient \u00e0 seulement 24 000 ans. Mais selon une \u00e9tude publi\u00e9e lundi dans la revue scientifique<em> Pnas<\/em>, ils sont en fait vieux d&rsquo;entre 44 200 et 40 600 ann\u00e9es.\u00a0L&rsquo;\u00e9tude conclut ainsi que les N\u00e9andertaliens \u00abont disparu du nord de l&rsquo;Europe (&#8230;) bien plus t\u00f4t que sugg\u00e9r\u00e9 auparavant\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>Une \u00e9quipe multidisciplinaire de Belgique, de Grande-Bretagne et d&rsquo;Allemagne a d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 une m\u00e9thode pour pr\u00e9parer les \u00e9chantillons, permettant d&rsquo;\u00e9viter toute contamination ext\u00e9rieure, a expliqu\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;Agence France-Presse (AFP) l&rsquo;un des co-auteurs de l&rsquo;\u00e9tude, Thibaut Deviese, de l&rsquo;Universit\u00e9 d&rsquo;Oxford et Aix-Marseille.<\/p>\n<p>\u00abPr\u00e8s de deux si\u00e8cles apr\u00e8s la d\u00e9couverte de l&rsquo;enfant n\u00e9andertalien d&rsquo;Engis, nous avons \u00e9t\u00e9 capables de lui donner un \u00e2ge fiable\u00bb, a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 Thibaut Deviese.\u00a0\u00abDater tous ces sp\u00e9cimens de Belgique \u00e9tait tr\u00e8s enthousiasmant, car ils ont jou\u00e9 un r\u00f4le majeur dans la compr\u00e9hension et la d\u00e9finition de l&rsquo;Homme de N\u00e9andertal.\u00bb<\/p>\n<p>Des preuves existent qu&rsquo;il a pu survivre plus longtemps dans d&rsquo;autres r\u00e9gions qu&rsquo;en Belgique, note toutefois l&rsquo;\u00e9tude.\u00a0\u00abLa datation est cruciale en arch\u00e9ologie, car sans un cadre fiable de la chronologie, on ne peut \u00eatre s\u00fbrs de comprendre les relations entre le N\u00e9andertalien et l&rsquo;Homo sapiens\u00bb, a-t-il soulign\u00e9.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Source : <a href=\"https:\/\/ift.tt\/3ryAZNZ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/ift.tt\/3ryAZNZ<\/a> &#8211;\u00a0Le Temps<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lire aussi l&rsquo;article du 7 novembre 2014:<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.letemps.ch\/sciences\/rencontre-entre-sapiens-neandertal-datee-grace-ladn-ancien\">La rencontre entre \u00abSapiens\u00bb et Neandertal dat\u00e9e gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 l\u2019ADN ancien<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quand a disparu l&rsquo;Homme de N\u00e9andertal? La question agite les scientifiques depuis longtemps. Des restes humains d&rsquo;une grotte en Belgique, analys\u00e9s gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 une nouvelle technique, contribuent aujourd&rsquo;hui au d\u00e9bat en se r\u00e9v\u00e9lant bien plus anciens que pr\u00e9c\u00e9demment envisag\u00e9s. Selon de pr\u00e9c\u00e9dentes datations par radiocarbone, les sp\u00e9cimens de la grotte de Spy en Belgique, o\u00f9 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_import_markdown_pro_load_document_selector":0,"_import_markdown_pro_submit_text_textarea":"","_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[19,801,5,11],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-18268","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-bp110-faire-de-lhistoire-aujourdhui","7":"category-bp13shn-enseigner-les-sciences-sociales-et-les-sciences-de-la-nature-aux-cycles-1-et-2","8":"category-histoire-savante","9":"category-nouvelles-de-lhistoire","10":"entry"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"featured_image_src":null,"featured_image_src_square":null,"author_info":{"display_name":"Lyonel Kaufmann","author_link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/author\/lyonelk\/"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1rJVM-4KE","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":8089,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2014\/07\/06\/neandertal-il-nest-pas-lhomme-que-vous-croyez-mediapart\/","url_meta":{"origin":18268,"position":0},"title":"N\u00e9andertal: il n&#039;est pas l&#039;homme que vous croyez &#124; Mediapart","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"6 juillet 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"Il y a 430 000 ans, un groupe d\u2019humains primitifs a v\u00e9cu au nord de l\u2019Espagne, dans la sierra de Atapuerca, une formation de roches calcaires et argileuses, creus\u00e9e de galeries et de grottes souterraines. Vingt-huit individus ont \u00e9t\u00e9 ensevelis dans une cavit\u00e9 au fond d\u2019un puits de 14 m\u00e8tres\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans &quot;Nouvelles de l'histoire&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Nouvelles de l'histoire","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/category\/nouvelles-de-lhistoire\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"wpid-Pitofbones3.jpg-2014-07-6-15-56.png","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/wpid-Pitofbones3.jpg-2014-07-6-15-56.png?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/wpid-Pitofbones3.jpg-2014-07-6-15-56.png?resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/wpid-Pitofbones3.jpg-2014-07-6-15-56.png?resize=525%2C300 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":11492,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2016\/05\/26\/decouvertes-neandertal-modern-or-not-modern\/","url_meta":{"origin":18268,"position":1},"title":"D\u00e9couvertes : Neandertal modern or not modern ?","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"26 mai 2016","format":false,"excerpt":"S\u2019aventurer dans les profondeurs d\u2019une grotte, y\u00a0faire\u00a0reculer\u00a0l\u2019obscurit\u00e9, une torche \u00e0 la main.\u00a0Trouver\u00a0une vaste salle h\u00e9riss\u00e9e de stalagmites. Les\u00a0briser\u00a0par centaines. Les\u00a0assembler\u00a0pour\u00a0\u00e9riger\u00a0de petits enclos circulaires, tout en gardant vivante la lueur vacillante du feu \u2014 pour\u00a0retrouver\u00a0le chemin du retour \u00e0 l\u2019air libre.\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0Il y a quelques ann\u00e9es, dit Jacques Jaubert, professeur de pr\u00e9histoire\u00a0\u00e0\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans &quot;Histoire savante&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Histoire savante","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/category\/didactique\/histoire-savante\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/4926454_6_7af3_dans-la-grotte-de-bruniquel-tarn-et-garonne_545eda9e7129af87c2bd008dccf6e1d8.jpg?fit=1068%2C712&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/4926454_6_7af3_dans-la-grotte-de-bruniquel-tarn-et-garonne_545eda9e7129af87c2bd008dccf6e1d8.jpg?fit=1068%2C712&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/4926454_6_7af3_dans-la-grotte-de-bruniquel-tarn-et-garonne_545eda9e7129af87c2bd008dccf6e1d8.jpg?fit=1068%2C712&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/4926454_6_7af3_dans-la-grotte-de-bruniquel-tarn-et-garonne_545eda9e7129af87c2bd008dccf6e1d8.jpg?fit=1068%2C712&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/4926454_6_7af3_dans-la-grotte-de-bruniquel-tarn-et-garonne_545eda9e7129af87c2bd008dccf6e1d8.jpg?fit=1068%2C712&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6382,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2012\/11\/06\/on-a-tous-en-nous-quelque-chose-de-neandertal-slate\/","url_meta":{"origin":18268,"position":2},"title":"On a tous en nous quelque chose de N\u00e9andertal &#124; Slate","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"6 novembre 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"Un homme et une femme de N\u00e9andertal, mus\u00e9e de N\u00e9andertal de D\u00fcsseldorf, via Wikimedia Commons.\u00a0Wikimedia Commons Dans Slate, Ann Gibbons fait le point sur les diff\u00e9rentes th\u00e9ories sur l'homme moderne et nos relations avec les hommes de N\u00e9andertal ainsi que les Denisoviens. Elle explique comment la g\u00e9n\u00e9tique prouve que nos\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans &quot;BP110 - Faire de l'histoire aujourd'hui&quot;","block_context":{"text":"BP110 - Faire de l'histoire aujourd'hui","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/category\/cours-et-seminaires\/bp110-faire-de-lhistoire-aujourdhui\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/neandertal_adam_ve_kadin_modeli_almanya_copy.jpg?fit=540%2C297&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/neandertal_adam_ve_kadin_modeli_almanya_copy.jpg?fit=540%2C297&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/neandertal_adam_ve_kadin_modeli_almanya_copy.jpg?fit=540%2C297&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":11217,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2016\/03\/15\/neandertal-vivait-en-espagne-il-y-a-430000-ans-mediapart\/","url_meta":{"origin":18268,"position":3},"title":"N\u00e9andertal vivait en Espagne il y a 430&rsquo;000 ans | Mediapart","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"15 mars 2016","format":false,"excerpt":"Une \u00e9quipe de Leipzig a r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 d\u00e9crypter le plus ancien ADN humain jamais s\u00e9quenc\u00e9. 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Les N\u00e9andertaliens, premiers occupants de l\u2019Europe, \u00e9taient d\u00e9j\u00e0 pr\u00e9sents en Espagne il\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans &quot;Histoire savante&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Histoire savante","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/category\/didactique\/histoire-savante\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/1-dnalab-2-credit-javier-trueba-madrid-scientific-films.jpg?fit=661%2C496&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/1-dnalab-2-credit-javier-trueba-madrid-scientific-films.jpg?fit=661%2C496&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/1-dnalab-2-credit-javier-trueba-madrid-scientific-films.jpg?fit=661%2C496&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":17006,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2020\/02\/04\/neandertal-est-en-chacun-de-nous\/","url_meta":{"origin":18268,"position":4},"title":"Neandertal est en chacun de nous","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"4 f\u00e9vrier 2020","format":false,"excerpt":"Les m\u00e9tissages entre l\u2019homme de Neandertal et \u00ab\u00a0Homo sapiens\u00a0\u00bb ont laiss\u00e9 des traces dans le g\u00e9nome de l\u2019ensemble de la population humaine actuelle, et pas seulement chez les non\u00a0Africains, comme on le supposait. 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