{"id":2879,"date":"2010-06-19T22:39:17","date_gmt":"2010-06-19T21:39:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/?p=2879"},"modified":"2010-06-19T22:39:17","modified_gmt":"2010-06-19T21:39:17","slug":"lhistorien-le-film-et-lanachronique-pierre-sorlin-cinemadoc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2010\/06\/19\/lhistorien-le-film-et-lanachronique-pierre-sorlin-cinemadoc\/","title":{"rendered":"L\u2019historien, le film et l\u2019anachronique \u2013 Pierre Sorlin &#124; Cin\u00e9madoc"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Nous arrivons ainsi \u00e0 une premi\u00e8re proposition : le film historique serait, davantage que beaucoup d\u2019autres, un film situ\u00e9, \u00e9troitement d\u00e9pendant d\u2019un contexte en dehors duquel il n\u2019aurait pas de sens. Il serait, d\u2019autre part, sous un v\u00eatement d\u2019emprunt, consacr\u00e9 d\u2019abord et avant tout aux questions contemporaines ; par une voie d\u00e9tourn\u00e9e, il aborderait des th\u00e8mes d\u2019actualit\u00e9, prendrait position sur des conflits du moment ; en un mot, sa premi\u00e8re caract\u00e9ristique serait la retraduction, la mise au pr\u00e9sent des \u00e9v\u00e9nements pass\u00e9s.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Pierre Sorlin, \u201cClio \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cran, ou l\u2019historien dans le noir\u201d,\u00a0\u00a0<em>Revue d\u2019histoire contemporaine<\/em>, avril-juin 1974, p. 266<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>R\u00e9my Besson nous offre une s\u00e9rie de courts billets fort passionnant concernant l&rsquo;\u00e9tat du champ concernant l&rsquo;histoire et le cin\u00e9ma au travers d&rsquo;oeuvres charni\u00e8res. Ici, il s&rsquo;agit d&rsquo;un texte de Pierre Sorlin.<\/p>\n<p>Plus que toute oeuvre historique, le film serait un formidable r\u00e9v\u00e9lateur des pr\u00e9occupations du temps pr\u00e9sent relativement au pass\u00e9. Cela renforce, \u00e0 mon avis, son int\u00e9r\u00eat en classe d&rsquo;histoire pour notamment mettre en \u00e9vidence la question du point de vue en histoire.<\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;en profite pour adresser un grand merci \u00e0 R\u00e9my Besson pour son excellente initiative.<\/p>\n<p>via\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/culturevisuelle.org\/cinemadoc\/2010\/06\/16\/pierre-sorlin\/\">L\u2019historien, le film et l\u2019anachronique \u2013 Pierre Sorlin | Cin\u00e9madoc<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00ab\u00a0Nous arrivons ainsi \u00e0 une premi\u00e8re proposition : le film historique serait, davantage que beaucoup d\u2019autres, un film situ\u00e9, \u00e9troitement d\u00e9pendant d\u2019un contexte en dehors duquel il n\u2019aurait pas de sens. Il serait, d\u2019autre part, sous un v\u00eatement d\u2019emprunt, consacr\u00e9 d\u2019abord et avant tout aux questions contemporaines ; par une voie d\u00e9tourn\u00e9e, il aborderait des [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":9896,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_import_markdown_pro_load_document_selector":0,"_import_markdown_pro_submit_text_textarea":"","_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4,5,11,13,17],"tags":[136,264,334,354],"class_list":{"0":"post-2879","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-histoire-active","8":"category-histoire-savante","9":"category-nouvelles-de-lhistoire","10":"category-opinionsreflexions","11":"category-sur-le-web","12":"tag-cinema","13":"tag-filmhistoire","14":"tag-histoire","15":"tag-historiographie","16":"entry"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"featured_image_src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/signature_lk2.jpg?resize=600%2C184&ssl=1","featured_image_src_square":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/signature_lk2.jpg?resize=600%2C184&ssl=1","author_info":{"display_name":"Lyonel Kaufmann","author_link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/author\/lyonelk\/"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/signature_lk2.jpg?fit=658%2C184&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1rJVM-Kr","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":144,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2006\/11\/19\/untitledmecanique-filmique-films-historiques-et-histoire-du-cinema\/","url_meta":{"origin":2879,"position":0},"title":"M\u00e9canique filmique. 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