{"id":3857,"date":"2011-08-02T06:49:38","date_gmt":"2011-08-02T05:49:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/?p=3857"},"modified":"2011-08-02T06:49:38","modified_gmt":"2011-08-02T05:49:38","slug":"histoire-anthropologie-et-ethnohistoire-devenir-historien-ne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2011\/08\/02\/histoire-anthropologie-et-ethnohistoire-devenir-historien-ne\/","title":{"rendered":"Compte-rendu – Nathan Wachtel : La vision des vaincus"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Couverture de l'\u00e9dition de 1992<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Compte-rendu par Clara Chevalier dans Devenir historien- ne<\/em> de Nathan Wachtel,\u00a0La vision des vaincus. Les Indiens du P\u00e9rou devant la Conqu\u00eate espagnole, 1530-1570<\/em>, Paris, Gallimard, coll. \u00ab\u00a0Folio Histoire\u00a0\u00bb, 1992 (1e<\/sup> \u00e9d. coll. \u00ab\u00a0Biblioth\u00e8que des Histoires\u00a0\u00bb, 1971), 395 p.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Pour rappel, cet ouvrage se propose d\u2019envisager la conqu\u00eate espagnole de l\u2019Am\u00e9rique du Sud, au XVIe <\/sup>si\u00e8cle, du point de vue des \u00ab\u00a0vaincus\u00a0\u00bb, c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire des Indiens. Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9\u00e9dit\u00e9 en mars 1992 dans la collection \u00ab\u00a0Folio Histoire\u00a0\u00bb. Il est paru pour la premi\u00e8re fois en 1971 . Dans la pr\u00e9face de 1992, Nathan Wachtel revient sur son travail et dresse un bref bilan des recherches historiques men\u00e9es depuis lors sur les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s pr\u00e9hispaniques d\u2019Am\u00e9rique du Sud.<\/p>\n

Au terme de son compte-rendu, Clara Chevalier conclut<\/p>\n

Le projet de cet ouvrage, qui consiste \u00e0 d\u00e9centrer un point de vue, \u00e0 changer de perspective, a fait date. Il s\u2019adresse tr\u00e8s manifestement \u00e0 un lectorat occidental. Nul doute qu\u2019un-e chercheur-e p\u00e9ruvien-ne, porteur-se d\u2019un point de vue diff\u00e9rent, aurait produit un tout autre travail. Il s\u2019agit ici pour l\u2019auteur de rendre intelligible la \u00ab\u00a0vision des vaincus\u00a0\u00bb aux Europ\u00e9ens en l\u2019expliquant \u00e0 l\u2019aide de concepts qui leur sont familiers. \u00c0 la lecture, on ne peut s\u2019emp\u00eacher d\u2019\u00e9tablir des rapprochements avec l\u2019histoire europ\u00e9enne : par exemple, le statut des yana fait penser \u00e0 celui des serfs, et l\u2019efficacit\u00e9 de la conqu\u00eate espagnole semble reposer sur des causes similaires \u00e0 celles qui expliquent le succ\u00e8s de C\u00e9sar en Gaule. Les diff\u00e9rents modes de possession fonci\u00e8re sont mis en relation par N. Wachtel avec ceux du syst\u00e8me f\u00e9odal. La question de la possibilit\u00e9 d\u2019op\u00e9rer un d\u00e9placement du point de vue demeure ouverte, et les r\u00e9flexions qui d\u00e9coulent de la d\u00e9marche propos\u00e9e par cet ouvrage continuent d\u2019alimenter les d\u00e9bats qui traversent les \u00e9tudes postcoloniales.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Un ouvrage qui pr\u00e8s de quarante ans apr\u00e8s sa parution garde \u00a0tout son int\u00e9r\u00eat et m\u00e9rite donc d’\u00eatre lu. A ce titre, l’\u00e9dition en poche le rend d’autant plus accessible.<\/p>\n

Le compte-rendu complet :\u00a0Histoire, anthropologie et ethnohistoire | Devenir historien-ne<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Compte-rendu par Clara Chevalier dans Devenir historien- ne de Nathan Wachtel,\u00a0La vision des vaincus. Les Indiens du P\u00e9rou devant la Conqu\u00eate espagnole, 1530-1570, Paris, Gallimard, coll. \u00ab\u00a0Folio Histoire\u00a0\u00bb, 1992 (1e \u00e9d. coll. \u00ab\u00a0Biblioth\u00e8que des Histoires\u00a0\u00bb, 1971), 395 p. Pour rappel, cet ouvrage se propose d\u2019envisager la conqu\u00eate espagnole de l\u2019Am\u00e9rique du Sud, au XVIe si\u00e8cle, […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":10209,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_import_markdown_pro_load_document_selector":0,"_import_markdown_pro_submit_text_textarea":"","_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3,5,16],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-3857","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-didactique","8":"category-histoire-savante","9":"category-publications","10":"entry"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"featured_image_src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/VisionVaincusPoche.jpg?resize=175%2C278&ssl=1","featured_image_src_square":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/VisionVaincusPoche.jpg?resize=175%2C278&ssl=1","author_info":{"display_name":"Lyonel Kaufmann","author_link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/author\/lyonelk\/"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/VisionVaincusPoche.jpg?fit=175%2C278&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1rJVM-10d","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":15651,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2019\/01\/16\/tristan-garcia-les-vaincus-nont-pas-dhistoire\/","url_meta":{"origin":3857,"position":0},"title":"Tristan Garcia : \u201cLes vaincus n\u2019ont pas d\u2019histoire\u201d","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"16 janvier 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"Philosophe et \u00e9crivain, Tristan Garcia publie Ames\u00a0, un ambitieux sixi\u00e8me roman et premier volet d\u2019un projet en trois tomes qui entend retracer l\u2019histoire de la souffrance \u00e0 travers toute l\u2019humanit\u00e9. 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