{"id":6105,"date":"2012-08-31T05:57:44","date_gmt":"2012-08-31T05:57:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/?p=6105"},"modified":"2012-08-31T05:57:44","modified_gmt":"2012-08-31T05:57:44","slug":"grandeur-et-decadence-a-hollywood-les-chiffres-romains-ont-perdu-la-bataille-des-titres-slate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2012\/08\/31\/grandeur-et-decadence-a-hollywood-les-chiffres-romains-ont-perdu-la-bataille-des-titres-slate\/","title":{"rendered":"Grandeur et d\u00e9cadence : A Hollywood, les chiffres romains ont perdu la bataille"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Encore une raison de moins de faire apprendre les chiffre romains \u00a0\u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9cole ! Fini \u00abRocky II\u00bb, place \u00e0 \u00abExpandables 2\u00bb: en quelques d\u00e9cennies, les chiffres arabes ont supplant\u00e9 les romains dans la majorit\u00e9 des franchises. M\u00eame Stallone n&rsquo;y trouve plus rien \u00e0 redire, lui qui trouvait que les chiffres arabes faisaient \u00abeff\u00e9min\u00e9s\u00bb.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.fr\/story\/61039\/cinema-hollywood-films-titres-chiffres-romains-arabes\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/the-expendables-2-videogame-team-cover.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Aux Etats-Unis, une g\u00e9n\u00e9ration d&rsquo;enfants (ou du moins Bart Simpson qui, dans un \u00e9pisode des Simpsons de 1995, trouve quel chiffre romain veut dire sept en ajoutant Rocky II et Rocky V) a appris comment lire les chiffres romains gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 ces films.<\/p>\n<p>Mais c&rsquo;\u00e9tait il y a dix-sept ans. D\u00e9sormais, les jeunes biberonn\u00e9s aux suites de Spider-Man et Transformers pourraient ne jamais apprendre le style classique. Comment les chiffres romains ont-ils conquis puis perdu les faveurs d&rsquo;Hollywood?<\/p>\n<p>La suite dans <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.fr\/story\/61039\/cinema-hollywood-films-titres-chiffres-romains-arabes\">A Hollywood, les chiffres romains ont perdu la bataille des titres | Slate<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Encore une raison de moins de faire apprendre les chiffre romains \u00a0\u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9cole ! Fini \u00abRocky II\u00bb, place \u00e0 \u00abExpandables 2\u00bb: en quelques d\u00e9cennies, les chiffres arabes ont supplant\u00e9 les romains dans la majorit\u00e9 des franchises. M\u00eame Stallone n&rsquo;y trouve plus rien \u00e0 redire, lui qui trouvait que les chiffres arabes faisaient \u00abeff\u00e9min\u00e9s\u00bb.\u00a0 Aux Etats-Unis, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":10116,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_import_markdown_pro_load_document_selector":0,"_import_markdown_pro_submit_text_textarea":"","_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[17],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-6105","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-sur-le-web","8":"entry"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"featured_image_src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/the-expendables-2-videogame-team-cover.jpg?resize=600%2C330&ssl=1","featured_image_src_square":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/the-expendables-2-videogame-team-cover.jpg?resize=600%2C330&ssl=1","author_info":{"display_name":"Lyonel Kaufmann","author_link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/author\/lyonelk\/"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/the-expendables-2-videogame-team-cover.jpg?fit=600%2C330&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1rJVM-1At","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":185,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2007\/04\/06\/links-for-2007-04-06\/","url_meta":{"origin":6105,"position":0},"title":"Liens (06.04.2007)","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"6 avril 2007","format":false,"excerpt":"Et si on sortait des exercices b\u00eates et stupides de conversion entre chiffres arabes et chiffres romains dans nos cours d'histoire pour s'int\u00e9resser v\u00e9ritablement \u00e0 leur histoire dans une v\u00e9ritable d\u00e9marche interdisciplinaire? 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