{"id":8445,"date":"2014-10-10T17:33:36","date_gmt":"2014-10-10T16:33:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/?p=8445"},"modified":"2014-10-10T17:33:36","modified_gmt":"2014-10-10T16:33:36","slug":"robert-paxton-largument-de-zemmour-sur-vichy-est-vide-rue89","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2014\/10\/10\/robert-paxton-largument-de-zemmour-sur-vichy-est-vide-rue89\/","title":{"rendered":"Robert Paxton\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0L\u2019argument de Zemmour sur Vichy est vide\u00a0\u00bb &#124;\u00a0Rue89"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rue89.nouvelobs.com\/sites\/news\/files\/styles\/asset_img_half\/public\/assets\/image\/2014\/10\/la_france_de_vichy.jpg?resize=221%2C365\" alt=\"\" width=\"221\" height=\"365\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rue89. Selon Eric Zemmour, votre regard sur Vichy est id\u00e9ologique et manich\u00e9en\u00a0: le r\u00e9gime aurait, \u00e0 la diff\u00e9rence de ce qui s\u2019est pass\u00e9 dans d\u2019autres pays comme la Hollande, permis de sauver de nombreux juifs fran\u00e7ais en sacrifiant les juifs \u00e9trangers&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Robert Paxton.<\/strong> Cet argument est parfaitement vide, de m\u00eame que le livre d\u2019Alain Michel sur lequel il s\u2019appuie. Il suffit de lire les lois promulgu\u00e9es par Vichy entre 1940\u00a0et 1942, qui imposent des exclusions sur tous les juifs, y compris les juifs de nationalit\u00e9 fran\u00e7aise. Le statut des juifs qui les exclut des services publics\u00a0; l\u2019instauration de quotas \u00e0 l\u2019universit\u00e9\u00a0; la loi du 22\u00a0juillet 1941 sur l\u2019aryanisation des biens juifs&#8230; tous ces textes ne font aucune distinction entre juifs fran\u00e7ais et juifs \u00e9trangers.<\/p>\n<p>Lire l&rsquo;article de <em>Rue89<\/em> et les propos de Paxton :\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rue89.nouvelobs.com\/2014\/10\/09\/robert-paxton-largument-zemmour-vichy-est-vide-255385\">Robert Paxton\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0L\u2019argument de Zemmour sur Vichy est vide\u00a0\u00bb &#8211; Le nouvel Observateur<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rue89. Selon Eric Zemmour, votre regard sur Vichy est id\u00e9ologique et manich\u00e9en\u00a0: le r\u00e9gime aurait, \u00e0 la diff\u00e9rence de ce qui s\u2019est pass\u00e9 dans d\u2019autres pays comme la Hollande, permis de sauver de nombreux juifs fran\u00e7ais en sacrifiant les juifs \u00e9trangers&#8230; Robert Paxton. Cet argument est parfaitement vide, de m\u00eame que le livre d\u2019Alain Michel [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":8452,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_import_markdown_pro_load_document_selector":0,"_import_markdown_pro_submit_text_textarea":"","_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[5,11,13],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-8445","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-histoire-savante","8":"category-nouvelles-de-lhistoire","9":"category-opinionsreflexions","10":"entry"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"featured_image_src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/la_france_de_vichy1.jpg?resize=221%2C365&ssl=1","featured_image_src_square":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/la_france_de_vichy1.jpg?resize=221%2C365&ssl=1","author_info":{"display_name":"Lyonel Kaufmann","author_link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/author\/lyonelk\/"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/la_france_de_vichy1.jpg?fit=221%2C365&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1rJVM-2cd","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":10547,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2015\/10\/14\/robert-paxton-lidee-que-la-france-de-vichy-a-essaye-de-proteger-les-juifs-est-absurde\/","url_meta":{"origin":8445,"position":0},"title":"Robert Paxton : \u201cL&rsquo;id\u00e9e que la France de Vichy a essay\u00e9 de prot\u00e9ger les Juifs est absurde\u201d","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"14 octobre 2015","format":false,"excerpt":"Son grand livre, \u201cVichy et les juifs\u201d, repara\u00eet aujourd'hui, dans une version revue et augment\u00e9e. 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Cette \u00e9lection n\u2019a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 accept\u00e9e par de tr\u00e8s nombreuses personnes. Quand la France est\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans &quot;Opinions&amp;R\u00e9flexions&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Opinions&amp;R\u00e9flexions","link":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/category\/didactique\/opinionsreflexions\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":8523,"url":"https:\/\/lyonelkaufmann.ch\/histoire\/2014\/11\/09\/pour-repondre-a-eric-zemmour-sur-vichy\/","url_meta":{"origin":8445,"position":2},"title":"Pour r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 Eric #Zemmour sur #Vichy","author":"Lyonel Kaufmann","date":"9 novembre 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"En laissant complaisamment Eric Zemmour redonner ses lettres de noblesse \u00e0 cette pourriture qu'a constitu\u00e9 le r\u00e9gime de Vichy, nous nous pr\u00e9parons \u00e0 des lendemains difficiles. Le documentaire\u00a0de J\u00e9r\u00f4me Prieur\u00a0\u201cH\u00e9l\u00e8ne Berr, une jeune fille dans Paris occup\u00e9\u201d est probablement une des meilleures r\u00e9ponses aux propos\u00a0ignominieux\u00a0d'Eric Zemmour. 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